The Brave Little Podcast

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This podcast seeks to investigate the arguments put forth in Kevin Kelly's work _What Technology Wants_ through a close reading of the 1987 animated film _The Brave Little Toaster_. Using the film as a "way in," I hope to draw attention to some of the larger themes in Kelly's argument, namely concerning questions of (self-)agency within the ever-blurring relationship between man and technology.

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broserf_uprising's picture

Biological Pain, Kairotic Gain.

First, talk about a nostalgia bomb. The fact that proto-Pixar did The Brave Little Toaster is pretty interesting; especially with Toy Story 3's rather grimdark moments and similar plot elements. While I could go into a whole tandem reading of the Toy Story films, I'll refrain.

I suppose the thing that was most interesting to me was the moment you touched on the 'dark side' of evolution - the depiction of the tinkerer's shop as a horror show, and the 'useless' inventions created out of the gutted appliances. It reminded me of the introduction to this Radiolab episode (http://www.radiolab.org/2010/dec/14/) where they talk about how evolution is often seen as a process where "living things are shaped by cold-hearted competition." The show itself goes on to examine 'goodness' and why there is cooperation in spite of the natural predilection to be jerks, but i find it interesting that Kelly is able to avoid this inherent pain of evolution.

Obviously part of the revulsion to the tinkerer scene is due to the whole "cute anthropomorphic appliances" factor, but I think additionally we *would* rather close our eyes to the pain inherent in the evolution of biology, and the technium as well. Kelly is obviously aware of the ethical questions of technology being better in the long run - his thesis of 'more technology = more choice = better overall life world' (paraphrased) seems fairly sound. However, I think it speaks to the issue of evolutionary pain as his glowing descriptions of technology tend to generally avoid the darker side of technology – sure he addresses it, but quickly returns to all the positives. And realistically, we hardly ever talk about ‘failed’ evolutionary lines: we'd probably rather not talk about dirigibles unless we're into steampunk. Evolution is cruel - when you're made out of hydrogen, explode, and there's a better form of flight in the plane, you're going to lose your use.

However, the interesting fact is that while with biology, once a species is extinct (due to being unable to adapt further to some change - say a new predator/environment) it is gone, in technology we very rarely lose these technologies. The dirigible may have never taken off as a flying transport, but its successors are used for entertainment in hot air balloons and for science with weather balloons. The fact that evolutionary lines may 'die' and their records live on allows us to cheat evolution. Opposed to the do-or-die evolution of the biosphere, the technium preserves knowledge and allows for ‘dead’ species to find themselves reincarnated in a new form (The evolutionary tree of coronets on 51). And while this process might be violent to anthropomorphic blenders, in reality it is a preservative feature of the technium that ultimately works towards propagating new species of technology. “Survival of the Fittest” might not be the correct term; rather, I would like to suggest “Survival of the Kairotic(est)” or some variation of. Because species that might not survive their first time around can be reincarnated through Kairos into use again (or as Kelly notes, repurposed from their original planned form), the determining factor of technological evolution isn’t one’s fitness – unless it is fitness of time and place at the proper moment. And because this evolution is done through Kairos instead of cold blooded survival, it isn’t nearly as painful as Pixar would have us believe.

Amber's picture

Technology foe or friend?

The description was appreciated as it prepared me for your podcast’s method of addressing the reading. Additionally, it intrigued me so much (by reminding me of happy childhood memories) that I chose your podcast for comment. Stating your goal for the podcast in the description was a nice touch as it allowed me to ponder whether or not you reached your goal as you spoke—which I believe you did, and gave me something specific to focus on.

That being said, you did a great of preparing the listener for the direction in which your discussion would go (“the parallels…”), which was greatly valued by me because I have trouble comprehending with only verbal cues so I was able to remember these openings and prepare to listen for further discussion on the topic.

Your discussion of the technium, particularly the relationship between man and technology was nicely paralleled with “The Brave Little Toaster” with your example of the Frankenstein-like relationship mentioned in the text nicely highlighted from the animated film. I agree with your comment that “we are more like the salvager than we would like to think…hungry consumers.” I think that your comments on this fact are something we should really ponder as consumers, because it seems we are often caught up in the compulsion to “buy more” even if these things or technologies that we are buying are actually cheap, unhelpful gadgets as Kelly discuses early in his book.

Also, your highlight of Kelly’s comments that “technology does not change consciousness but becomes consciousness” was a very integral and scary issue from the reading that again made me wonder about the power of technology and if we can ever determine whether it is good or evil. I doubt we will ever come to a decision as we will not be destroying technology/living without it in order to find out. I do worry though, if we found ourselves in a situation like Egypt is now in (where the internet was shut down for days), how would we function as the internet has essentially become a part of our consciousness. Would we use that lack to find new information to merge into our consciousness or would our systems crash?

Great job...thanks.

Amber Randall
abr9042@uncw.edu